On Tuesday night, President Obama held a State Dinner honoring the Italian Prime Minister, and infamous recluse Frank Ocean was among those invited to the formal shindig. The singer surprised the media in one way; his choice of footwear.

He paired a suit with some checkerboard Slip-On Vans. C-Span caught footage of Ocean’s entrance and a quick interview, his first in years, with the crooner behind Blonde. When asked about the Vans, Frank credited his sartorial choice to his inexperience of attending such events. He was also asked if he’d be supporting Hilary Clinton by holding a concert as some of his high profile musical colleagues have. He has no plans to.

It's difficult to know whether the fact that Frank wore Vans to the White House, or that he actually participated in an interview is the more shocking. Decide for yourself and check out the rather awkward encounter here.